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Other half of studiogeneric question
I assume, because like in Canada and the US, there is an organization (IHSA or OSHA) that regulates the environment and education workers are subject too. Not to say that there aren’t workers that don’t always follow those guidelines, but ultimately this falls into the responsibility of the GC. I’d go as far as to say this comes down to a problem or organization and the way contracting process in these locations is handled. This is an issue far greater than the responsibility of the architect.
Is this going to result in a fist fight? I agree with you on one hand, it is a bigger issue than one project and one architect. Safety (as you know) on a job site is the responsibility of the GC as you mention (I think also client/owner but could depend on the contract), legally at least, maybe not morally, but that’s just as much a grey area as working for a political ideology or regime you do not agree with.
I do take issue saying that she has no power to affect this. She does. Any designer does, if they think of these practice and practical issues as a design process. (I can feel you rolling your eyes). I know that’s a stretch, in the Zaha Hadid and her doppelgangers world of architecture. But I said before as soon as those practice focused ideas can couple with economic directions for projects, then it may pick up steam.
Absolutely, right now it is an issue far greater than the responsibility of the architect, but architects can think about this stuff and hopefully later down the road, architects can engage more responsibility and have a larger say in how projects get realized.
Also nice find on the RAIC article
ryanpanos, Probably not a fist fight, maybe a series of blog responses, but with your followers you outclass me by a lot… I’m just a lowly renderer with no real responsibility. I agree with you the architect has a responsibility to be involved in methods of construction. Often the process of erecting structural members, for instance, is a carefully choreographed process between the architect, structural consultant, and the GC. However, I bet you would be hard pressed to find a designer involved in that conversation (yes i make a distinction). Zaha if anything is a designer first and not an architect, even though unlike rem or renzo she is at least licensed.
Yes we can say architects could have more of a conscience about the work they accept and promote, but i doubt thats the first thing in question when so many are starving for work already. how many architects do work for the US gov? or for mega rich clients ala Trump? this is so much more a societal issue than an architectural discussion. i dont blame “starchitects” for receiving high profile commissions, and the conditions in which they are constructed, that onus lies elsewhere. She could take a course of action to speak out against the conditions of workers, but i dont think thats likely. Maybe the IOC or FIFA should look at the working conditions of countries before they commit to a location. snide i know, but again, how many died in London or Vancouver?
i did a bit more research, the AIA goes as far as putting it in the standard contract that the architect is explicitly NOT responsible for job site safety nor should they even interfere with job safety protocol.
While on the construction site, the architect must not interfere in
any way with the contractor’s responsibility for job site safety and
other safety programs. It is the contractor’s sole responsibility to
determine and control construction means, methods, techniques,
sequences, and procedures. The contractor is in charge of the job
site and is responsible for coordination of all portions of the work.
The architect’s prime interest should be to determine that the work,
when finished, will conform with the contract documents.
Adapted from Arthur F. O’Leary, FAIA, A Guide to
Successful Construction: Effective Contract Administration”
excerpt page 6